If we combine genetic genealogy and the new method of determining identity-by-descent in ancient DNA, we could, and should,

search for immortals.

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  1. wisewullie says:

    Interesting story in this morning’s Telegraph.
    The bodies of two close Viking relatives are to be reunited 1,000 years after they died hundreds of miles apart in Oxford and a small town in central Denmark.

    One of the Norsemen settled in England as a young man in the early 1000s, only to be killed in a massacre ordered by King Æthelred the Unready.

    The other remained in Denmark and lived until his 50s, though his remains show signs he lived a life of violence. Using DNA tests, scientists have proved that the two men were either half-brothers or uncle and nephew.

  2. Space Ghost says:

    Plus it could help us figure out if their language is really the origin of Indo-European!

  3. New Ledford says:

    Needle in a haystack, there can be only one.

  4. Pincher Martin says:

    Hey, Greg, I thought I read somewhere you were going to soon write about the current UFO phenomenon. Is that wrong?

  5. LOADED says:

    I guess all my comments are going to spam. Guess this Cochran guy really is a nut.

  6. pyrrhus says:

    If a person is immortal, do you really think that he will be voluntarily giving anyone samples of his DNA?

  7. Connor McLeod of clan McLeod says:

    This grant proposal, while interesting, suffers from two issues: Firstly, according to canon, immortals cannot have children until they win the prize (and then, there can only be one). Secondly, the best source of ancient DNA is the inner-ear, and immortals are only killed via decapitation, leading to likely collection difficulties.

  8. LOADED says:

    Authority challenging is not good. Never do it.

    In my case I am usually challenged by people much lesser than me. This is what psychopaths do. If you choose not to be a psychopath then you should revert to the norm.

  9. jb says:

    Is this the Tasmanian Devil thing again?

  10. Ziel says:

    …a Quinn-Martin Production

  11. engleberg says:

    Howard Family Foundation could find the women who’ve got pregnant at the oldest ages, pension their closest living daughters per issue.

  12. Coagulopath says:

    Can’t be that hard, I hear there’s 10,000 of them.

  13. hunkydory says:

    “new method of determining identity-by-descent in ancient DNA”
    Is this a reference to that paper early last year demonstrating neanderthal introgression into SSA?
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41576-020-0222-3 “There and back again — ancient genes reveal early migrations”
    Razib Khan seemed somewhat skeptical of it at the time. And as far as I know, he never wrote anything else about it since.
    I was curious what you thought about it. Endorsement? IBDmix rules OK?

  14. Stefan says:

    Someone in Russia found a 24,000 year old nematode in a Siberian permafrost core, heated it and it started eating and multiplying. Other similar nematodes were easily dying when frozen. It seems they were searchig for permafrost metagenome and found the Duncan MacLeod worm

    Click to access mmc1.pdf

  15. j says:

    Immortals? Like those partying on Mount Olympus?

  16. Ingo Bading says:

    David Reich in one of his latest talks made remarks about the combination of genetic genealogy and the new method of determining identity-by-descent in ancient DNA.

    But he is a little bit late in publishing the rich results of ancient DNA of the Chvalynsk culture at the Volga – the “immortals” we all stem from …

    Archaeologist David Anthony has given some insights about them two years ago. So we know now, where “the immortals” lived.

    But a lot of more details would be very welcome.

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