No, No, Not Rogov!

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29 Responses to No, No, Not Rogov!

  1. I love Numan’s work and have been entranced with this video of late, but I am afraid I lack the relevant context to make sense of your title. Is there some confusion with another artist?

  2. brotherOfRoland says:

    Hi Mr Cochran.
    This is actually a link to youtube mix. Youtube mix is different for everyone. It is generated by youtube based on your most frequent videos watched.
    It might help to post a specific video instead.
    This is my first comment, so thank you for this blog !

  3. Can somebody explain this latest Cochran reference?

  4. Watzi says:

    Great! Finally I meet another fan of Cordwainer Smith – at least, I hope that the title was an allusion to one of his earlier stories….

  5. catte says:

    I get David Bowie.

  6. beancrusher says:

    It is seldom the same video twice if you come back to the post. Trolling for clicks?

  7. benj says:

    Lol that makes more sense. I was pretty surprised that Greg listens to old school hip hop…

  8. jb says:

    You get a different video each time you refresh, but if you click on the YouTube icon you’ll see that they are all from the “My Mix” playlist, which is a list that YouTube tailors just for you. I’m reading this in private mode, so the list I’m seeing now is constructed using only the videos I’ve watched since I last opened the browser. I use a different browser when I want to keep history (especially cookies), and when I open this post using that browser I see a My Mix playlist constructed from the browsing history of my YouTube account. I noticed the My Mix thing a while back; it’s mostly videos I’ve watched in the past, but occasionally it comes up with something totally out of left field. I didn’t realize though that it was possible to show someone their own My Mix playlist.

    I was a fan of Cordwainer Smith back when I was still reading science fiction, but I don’t remember that particular story. I’ll have to read it now.

  9. jb says:

    I wrote a longer comment pointing out that the embedded video links to My Mix, but it hasn’t shown up, so I may have done something wrong. But briefly, YouTube gives everybody their own My Mix playlist, which is what YouTube thinks you want to watch, based on what you’ve watched before.

  10. Blue Man Group is really hard to practice in an apartment.

  11. AppSocRes says:

    What a great video! Thank you!

    The Cordwainer Smith reference and the video reminded me of a far inferior scifi story I read in F&SF Magazine back in the early 1960s, sort of an anti-“No, No, Not Rogov”. If I recall the plot correctly, a scientific contemporary of Ben Franklin has devised a device that can pick up electronic signals through time and space. In his first experiment he picks up a broadcast of what is clearly 1950s rock music. The scientist destroys his machine deciding that in the future mankind has descended into hopeless barbarism and it’s best not to learn more.

    Clearly the story was written by a grumpy writer with a distaste for the pop music of the time. I suspect that if he’d lived to hear rap music, the experience would have fried his brain as thoroughly as Rogov’s but in a less pleasant way.

  12. random observer says:

    Sci fi in TV and movies always does a poor job of imagining entertainment in the future, especially imagining popular music or dance. It might be the single hardest aspect of a future human society to imagine and present convincingly.

    I assume that’s why Star Trek seemed to assume that only classical and jazz forms would endure from Earth’s musical history. I always respect the effort, though- in the third of the Star Wars prequels they had the aristocracy of Coruscant watching an opera that looked like grand opera staged in a 3D environment, with elements of Cirque de Soleil style acrobatics and special effects. Plus giant bubbles. By comparison, late 70s TV shows Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers seemed to imagine that both the Colonies of Kobol and 25th century Earth would be disco cultures. As silly and contemporary as it was, the disco form did have a sort of spacey aesthetic that made it just barely imaginable.

    Smith’s approach benefits from being in written form and from judicious writing- just really emphasize the surreality, alienness and overwhelming beauty and call it a day. It’s the approach to writing about beauty that corresponds to HP Lovecraft’s way of writing about horror, come to think.

    As for this- it has a futuristic vibe, but I don’t think it’s alien enough. Blue Man Group is 80s retro, the song they are using is fairly old, and the stylings and effects owe a fair bit to disco, pop and some rock genres. If it really is an attempt to be over the top futuristic, I don’t think it quite does it.

  13. Anonymous says:

    Must be a generational thing. I didn’t particularly like the song until it really let go, and then it was 1969 all over again.

    • Yes, it had some 1969 vocal harmony especially. I looked up other stuff by Venus Hum and found it intriguing. A little too intentionally artsy, but still had some good stuff. I sent it to my filmmaker son to try and be cooler than him. Which always brings out his disdain.

  14. Dromozoan says:

    Speaking of Cordwainer Smith, remember the klopts?:
    ‘Out of their memory of old mankind they created a legend of Old Earth. Women in that memory were deformities, who should be killed. Misshapen beings, who should be erased. The family, as they recalled it, was filth and abomination which they were resolved to wipe out if they should ever meet it.
    They, themselves, were bearded homosexuals, with rouged lips, ornate earrings, fine heads of hair, and very few old men among them. They killed off their men before they became old; the things they could not get from love or relaxation or comfort, they purchased with battle and death. They made up songs proclaiming themselves to be the last of the old men and the first of the new, and they sang their hate to mankind when they should meet, and they sang,’
    Any resemblance between them and our beloved transsexuals is just coincidence, bigot.

    • random observer says:

      The Crime and the Glory of Commander Suzdal?

      I occasionally wonder how long that story will remain available.

  15. BB753 says:

    Even as a child, when I first heard this song performed by Donna Summer I felt it to be disturbingly erotic.

    • I would like to grant the point, but I don’t think that counts. The things that were disturbingly erotic to me at 13 were legion. That joke about the chicken soup, that a chicken merely walked through? That was a lot of us about anything a woman who had even done anything remotely sexy – I mean heck, Hayley Mills – walking through later.

  16. I figured out why it sounded like 1969. Lots of similarities in the tune – and the chorus – to 1965 Yardbirds, “For Your Love.”. Which is exactly who you want to be copying in this life.

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